Hello everyone
After receiving several requests, I've decided to design a PCB for Mesas, particularly the II/IIC+: I've designed already 90% of it, with the idea of having all the functions in a single heavy duty board (preamp, power section, eq, reverb, etc.) - same philosophy as the SLO model :)
However, I'd love to use a relay based channel switching instead of the LDRs. Has anyone done this before? What's your opinion?
Cheers,
Andrea
AA Electronics
I would avoid putting all of the circuits on one colossal PCB. Mesa does this, and they are a royal PITA to service. Many amps end up getting disassembled and abandoned because servicing them is more than most people can handle. When one component fails and needs to be removed/replaced you end up having to disassemble/un-manufacture the entire amp just to change a through-hole component like a failed cathode bias resistor. That's a very bad design. Even worse, Mesa hard-wires their boards, so the board's circumference radiates dozens of wires, each of which has to be de-soldered to remove the board. The entire amp ends up being de-manufactured just to access the board. Once the board is fixed, it's another asspain to put it all back together. IMO you're far better off with a modular approach comprised of sub-boards rather than a single heavy duty board, as this relieves the burden on the tech when it comes time to service the amp. Obviously, Mesa doesn't care about this. I hate servicing my Mk IV -- it has through hole components that are stacked 3-high like pancakes.
Another thing to consider is quick disconnects. It makes no sense to permanently wire the board to the chassis without any consideration for how difficult it will be to service when the time comes. This is a major oversight in the designs that focus on large boards. If you insist on monolithic boards, do everyone a favor and populate them with ribbon cables that have quick disconnects. It's obvious that Mesa designs their amps with no consideration whatsoever for servicing them. When they eventually fail -- and ALL Mesas eventually do fail -- they aren't cost effective to fix because they are designed to minimize construction cost and to last just long enough to make it through warranty, and once that point is reached Mesa doesn't care about how hard they are to service. Do everyone a favor and don't follow a bad leader.
Hello Andrea,
I am on the Boogie Forum (“Wildman”), although I don’t participate very much.
I noticed last week that you had posted on the Boogie Board that you were developing a Boogie PCB and wanted some help with relay switching for your PCB, but you received no response on the forum.
I have not found the Boogie Board to be very helpful with info, or suggestions, or solving problems, which is why I don’t go there often.
Have you had any help, (from Boogie Board members, or anyone else) with this issue yet?
You will get better responses from “The Amp Garage” members, who are more experienced and helpful.
I just had a look at your (now my) Solo PCB and schematic.
Why not just use that same relay/LDR circuit for the Boogie design?
That cct looks good to me and I assume it has done the job with the Solo.
If you are still looking for some help; I may be able to help with some Boogie info.
I still have the burnt out Boogie “50 Caliber+” amp that I bought from a client, several years ago, to rebuild into a Mark 2C+.
It is still in pieces and I have not done anything to it (or anything else) yet, due to a couple of years of injury caused medical problems.
I am now recovered and back into my amp building and guitar repairs and one of my first projects is the Boogie.
I am also working on amps using the PCBs that I bought from you.
I contacted you a few years ago, about the possibility of you doing a PCB for Boogies, so I will want your Boogie PCB.
Cheers, Noel